How does one call this connection in English?

"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
10/10/2016 at 14:28 • Filed to: None

And how do you loosen it?

It’s from this car. I want to replace the shifter rod:

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DISCUSSION (23)

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 14:36

It rather looks like you’re not meant to loosen it - like it’s an assembly that’s meant to remove from the trans(?) lever, rod, and all. I suppose you’d call it a shifter rod end, since it’s effectively like a very small tie rod end.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 14:39

I’m not entirely sure but it could be press fit that just needs to be popped off. But I know nothing of french cars.

duurtlang > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
10/10/2016 at 14:41

This is at the shifter side. On the transmission side the identical joint is utterly worn. Well the rod is. I’ve got a replacement rod which pops right on at the transmission side, with light force. However I can’t get the old one removed on the shifter side.

So you think I should get a shifter+rod replacement part?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 14:55

Well, it may be intended to be capable of popping off. I may have spoken in ignorance, if they offer a rod that is meant to replace it directly. I’m used to very small linkage ball joint ends that have clips on the outside, but some have a “nub” that’s spring-loaded inside as well.

Here’s a Mercedes one with internal spring retainer:

Kinja'd!!!

That being seen as a reference, there certainly are elements that are made as a single permanent ball/socket set. There are still others that adjust to tighten on the ball.

If the other one looks the same and popped off, it may be possible with more force... but at the same time, the ball itself may be worn on one or both ends.

Echo51 > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 14:58

http://pdfstream.manualsonline.com/7/7f118b27-a3f1-4ff8-9629-65e8f8fb1488.pdf

Entire haynes manual, save it somewhere and keep it accessible to you
Edit: this one seems to be missing the entire section on transmissions somehow..

duurtlang > Echo51
10/10/2016 at 15:01

Thanks! I have one already. It’s the same flawed one; chapter 6-8 missing. Which are clutch, transmission and driveshafts. Just the chapters I need, as I need to do a CV boot as well (first time for me).

DipodomysDeserti > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:02

Spray a bunch of WD40 in it, let it sit for ten minutes, then try to pull the rod out. You might need to apply some heat. Wipe the WD40 off first. You might need to use a screwdriver as a lever.

duurtlang > DipodomysDeserti
10/10/2016 at 15:04

In the picture it’s wet due to WD40. Haven’t tried heat yet, that’s a great tip.

hangus77 > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:05

Kinja'd!!!

You might want to try one of these bad boys to pop that sucker off there:

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:05

Has to be popped off. Quite difficult to do without doing damage to be honest. I bent stuff last time I had to work on a linkage like that.

duurtlang > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
10/10/2016 at 15:05

Looking at this picture it seems like you should be able to get it off. I think I’ll just have to try harder. Maybe apply some heat.

Kinja'd!!!

duurtlang > hangus77
10/10/2016 at 15:07

Interesting. I’ll have to find (or create) something like that.

duurtlang > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
10/10/2016 at 15:07

Bending the rod isn’t a problem, I’ve got a replacement one.

DipodomysDeserti > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:09

It looks like the same connection used for motorcycle shifters. They can be a PIA sometimes. You could also try using a punch, but be careful as you don’t want to spread the metal.

Echo51 > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:09

Yeah i saw your post on the CV boot, prepare to have one hell of a greasy time with that :D

hangus77 > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:11

Depending on if it is a compression fitting, this might work for you. I just looked at your pic again and on second thought, this may not be what you want. Maybe you could just get yourself an “adjuster” (five pound/2Kg hand sledge) and beat the hell out of it?

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:19

Get a big flat head screwdriver or crowbar or something and pop it off. Its the only real way to remove it. Heat might help but i didnt bother, if its worn it should pop off easily anyway.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:21

A 205 guy here also just pops it off. http://www.205gtidrivers.com/articles.html/_/articles-guides/gearbox-drivetrain/fitting-a-quick-shift-kit-r58

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 15:35

Lots of people offering helpful suggestions similar to what I’d say, but nobody that I see saying what it’s called...it’s a ball joint or ball-in-socket connection AFAIK. :)

duurtlang > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
10/10/2016 at 15:38

Right. Thanks! Ball I figured out myself, but socket I had no just yet. Never too old to learn, right?

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > duurtlang
10/10/2016 at 16:42

Nope, never too old to learn! :)

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > hangus77
11/10/2016 at 21:38

what is the name of this amazing tool.

hangus77 > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
11/15/2016 at 15:12

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html